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v23 #5 ATG Interviews Stephen Rhind-Tutt, President, Alexander Street Press, LLC

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by Tom Gilson  (Associate Editor, Against the Grain)  <gilsont@cofc.edu>
and Katina Strauch  (Editor, Against the Grain)  <kstrauch@comcast.net>

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ATG:  If we’re not mistaken you got your start in electronic publishing with Gale and then with Chadwyck-Healey.  Can you tell us a little bit about that?

SR-T:  I began my publishing career at Abt Books, an offshoot of Abt Associates, one of the world’s largest consulting companies.  Clark Abt, the founder, believed that CD-ROM had the potential substantially to help the developing world because it would allow for easy dissemination of Western knowledge.  I found that more inspiring than selling Hellman’s Mayonnaise — which is what I’d been doing previously!  We produced some pretty varied CD-ROMs that were ahead of their time (the National Portrait Gallery, a multimedia criminal justice database, and real estate data sets).

From there I was lucky enough to work at SilverPlatter (then the largest vendor of CD-ROM in the world), where I ran their Health Sciences division, on to IAC (now Gale), and thence to Chadwyck-Healey (now ProQuest).  I’ve always published for libraries.

ATG:  What gave you the inspiration to start Alexander Street Press?  What were your first products like?

SR-T:  I’d learned the value of controlled vocabularies at SilverPlatter and the value of full text at Chadwyck-Healey.  I thought they could be put together far more effectively.  I’d been reading Tim Berners-Lee about the semantic Web and Ted Nelson about the deficiencies of HTML and TCP/IP.  It was the height of the dot-com era and everyone was trying to get rid of human intelligence.  I thought we might go in the opposite direction  and use librarian cataloging skills to build semantic tags.

I realized that letters and diaries were in essence personal snapshots in place and time — and that with semantic indexing they’d become much more useful.l  And so I had the idea for a large collection of letters and diaries, indexed so that you could see what was written in a particular place at a particular time.   North American Women’s Letters and Diaries was our first product — it had important content, unavailable elsewhere in electronic form, with unique functionality and lots of input from librarians.  We’ve tried to keep to that recipe ever since.

ATG:  Since starting the company, you have expanded and now offer a variety of media to the library community.  Was that in the plan all along?  Or has it been a process of adjusting and taking advantage of new opportunities?  Have there been any surprises along the way that have caused you to adjust or change course?

SR-T:  There were big surprises.  I didn’t see Google Books coming — I thought libraries would do that themselves.  I didn’t think discovery services would get such traction.  But in both cases we’ve adjusted — by publishing much more rare, hard-to-find and in-copyright material and through alliances with the discovery service vendors.  In almost all cases we’ve stayed true to our mission.  Our goal has always been to provide the best we can within disciplines.  Video performances were a natural extension of drama texts.  Oral histories were a natural extension of letters and diaries.  When we acquired Classical.com it became evident how we might do this at scale.

ATG:  Up to this point Alexander Street Press has focused on the humanities and social sciences but with your new product Nursing Education in Video you seem to be branching out into the sciences.  Is this something we should continue to expect?

SR-T:  Absolutely.  Expect titles in business, law, architecture, medicine, and many other areas.  We like to enter new disciplines with a must-have landmark collection.  There’s been a lack of large, definitive, well-indexed video collections for libraries, so that provides us an entrée into many new disciplines.

ATG:  What elements go into your decision-making process when you decide to bring a new product to market?

SR-T:  Simply put, our mission is “to make silent voices heard.”  This is a way of saying that we look for content and voices that need to be amplified and made public.  A good electronic publisher also looks for ways to add functional value by making these content and voices easier to discover, analyze, annotate, search, and understand.

We aim to stay within specific disciplines because that lets us understand and respond more effectively to what academics and librarians need.  We think that librarians already have an abundance of choices, so we try not to duplicate resources that are already out there.  This is what leads us to collections as disparate as Underground and Independent Comics, Counseling and Psychotherapy Transcripts, and Nursing Education in Video.

Librarians are essential in this work.  They’ve suggested and helped us find rare material, whether it’s unusual newsreels or previously unpublished drama.

ATG:  You are an advocate of semantic indexing over traditional forms of indexing.  Can you explain the difference?  Is semantic indexing used in Alexander Street Press databases?  How does it benefit users?

SR-T:  Semantic indexing has a broad range of meanings.  My preferred definition is to tag “the conceptual content of a body of text by establishing associations between those terms that occur in similar contexts.”2

It’s much more than a fancy way to describe subject indexing.  It includes the addition of metadata about those subjects.  As an example, it’s not just tagging content for occurrences of a particular battle, it allows one to say: “Give me all battles in which more than 1,000 people were killed.”  Or, “Give me documents written by women under the age of 20 that talk about marriage.”  Or, “What Phase 2 clinical trials of ACE inhibitors have been successful in the past 2 years?”  The benefit to users is that it allows richer reference.

This Scientific American article3 on the Web does a better job than I of describing the importance of the concepts behind it.

ATG:  Last year at the Charleston Conference you dared the audience to “imagine … that for each term within a discipline there was a page on the web that organized all of the surrounding content for a particular subject within a discipline.”  You also said that is what you were aiming for at Alexander Street Press — and that you were close to achieving it for music and drama.  What would such a page look like and have you achieved it in your databases?

SR-T:  Yes, we’re aiming for this.  We’re relatively far down the tracks in music, less so in drama.  I don’t think that such pages necessarily need to be controlled by Alexander Street.  What’s exciting to me at the moment are initiatives that allow third party content to be easily linked.  To this end we’ve just spent much of the past year developing an Alexander Street Metadata Repository that will allow third parties to link to any and all of our content.  Commercial and non-profit organizations alike will be able to build reference pages and links directly into our content, and to have those pages update easily and at a low cost.

ATG:  Pricing is always an issue.  We hear from librarians that they are impressed with your innovative and valuable products but that the prices are too steep — especially from the perspective of small- and medium- size libraries.  Is there any fairness to that perception?

SR-T:  I think it’s an outdated perception.  Philosophically, our approach has always been to price to allow broad access — we’ve always had lower prices for smaller institutions.

I’m sure every vendor thinks that it offers good value — so what I’ve tried to do below is give you some objective comparisons.  Perhaps the greatest proof that we’re pricing fairly is that many partners license to us, and despite tough economic times our products are selling well to libraries.

Practically, I think the easiest way to show this is in examples: American History in Video has approximately 5,000 video titles in it and academic subscription prices range from $1,100 to $2,500 depending on the type and size of the institution.  The Music Online listening package contains the equivalent of more than 58,000 CDs and costs from $1,950 to $12,495 for an entire university to subscribe to for a year.  The same content on iTunes would cost a single professor $700,000 to buy, and that’s without all the tools and searchability we provide.

We do offer the ability to purchase content  — and this costs more.  But again I don’t think it’s excessive to ask for $15,000 to $30,000 for our Filmakers Library — that’s $13 to $26 per title for titles that sell for hundreds of dollars each.

ATG:  Can libraries customize selections from your databases and come up with a mix that is more affordable?  For example, will this type of flexibility be available with your new integrated online repository of academic video titles that is available via the new platform, Academic Video Online?

SR-T:  The documentaries — from our Filmakers Library imprint and the counseling and therapy videos from our Microtraining Associates imprint are available as single-streaming titles for $200 to $300 individually.  We’re in the process of securing licenses to sell more titles like this.  However, for some of our collections the original licensors will not give us single-title rights, and even when they do, they’re naturally concerned about losing money if we discount too heavily.  So by far and away, the best value for libraries is through our collections.

ATG:  While most of your recent offerings have been audio and/or video collections, you are releasing a new database called Anthropology Online that will focus on primary sources like written ethnographies, field notes, seminal texts, memoirs, etc.  However, it will be cross-searchable with your Ethnographic Video Online collection.  Is this the wave of the future?  Can text-only resources stand alone, or do today’s scholars expect access to multimedia resources?

SR-T:  Yes, text-only resources can stand alone.  In 2012, we plan to launch not just Anthropology Online, but new non-video collections in gay and lesbian studies, additional classical scores, and more history titles.

Having said that, the market is clearly headed towards a media-agnostic future.  This will be determined not by the ease with which a publisher can cope with media (as it is today), but by what serves the patron best.  And of course, we want to make all our collections cross-searchable within a discipline — as we’re doing in anthropology.

I think many see multimedia as a way to “sex up” texts.  Often this is a mistake.  Adding a few public-domain newsreels to a history book is only a starting point.  It’s like adding a few full-text journal articles at the end of an encyclopedia entry.   It’s more exciting to allow every student to see relevant sections from multiple newsreels for every person, event, and place from the past 100 years.  And the right way for that to happen is for us to have DOI-like standards that enable both stand-alone and integrated resources to interact with each other.

ATG:  Without divulging any trade secrets, can you tell us what other future developments we can expect from Alexander Street Press?

SR-T:  We’re really engaged in developing Academic Video Online at the moment.  We’ve set ourselves a goal of having 22,000 high-quality video titles in 25 collections by the end of 2012 — about twice what we have currently.  That’s a low number in comparison to eBooks, but for video that’s, well, vast.  We’ll make 20,000 of those titles available as a single package, which, for obvious reasons, we’re calling the VAST package.

We’re also about to launch our metadata repository.  As I mention above this is a big deal for us because it will enable others more easily to capitalize on our work.  For libraries it will make it possible to develop subject oriented perma-links that avoid our interfaces and drop you directly into the subject, person, place, or object you’re interested in.

ATG:  Stephen, we want to thank you for taking the time out of your busy schedule to answer our questions.  We very much appreciate it. 


1.  S. Deerwester, et al, “Improving Information Retrieval with Latent Semantic Indexing,” Proceedings of the 51st Annual Meeting of the American Society for Information Science 25 (1988), 36–40.

2.  Tim Berners-LeeJames Hendler, and Ora Lassila, “The Semantic Web,” Scientific American Magazine, May 17, 2001, http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=the-semantic-web.  Accessed  March 26, 2008.

3.  H. Hedden,  “How Semantic Tagging Increases Findability,” E-Content Magazine, October 2008, http://www.hedden-information.com/SemanticTagging.pdf. Accessed August 26, 2011.


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